Something Ozy said about the specific definition of “safe space” has me wondering for an alternative that feels less like appropriation.
I’d just use the term “safe space” anyway. It’s an accurate description.
Are you looking for something like this while also being left?
Or something like this designed to speak to the left, or frame its implications in the terms that leftists tend to actually care about.
Then you may find this interesting.
Austrians? Really? Can’t we do better?
While mises.org is an Austrian site and often wrong, this essay isn’t particularly Austrian. While Roderick Long is an Austrian, he’s still usually worth reading.
I am surprised there aren’t more social justice libertarians.
like, people who say ‘any time we give the state power (to go to war, to provide healthcare, to fund research) they use it to entrench the current status quo, even if their deliberate motive is different or exactly the opposite. the people who suffer most from abortion restrictions are poor and non-white. the people who suffer most from the government defining marriage is anyone whose orientation or practice is marginalized. the people who suffer most when we go to war are poor and Other and very far away. the people who get exploited for science, the people who go to jail, the people who end up navigating hellish bureaucracies… So the way to minimize oppression is to shrink and disempower the state.’
now that I write this I am sure these people exist. perhaps they don’t call themselves libertarians because it has a rightist and capitalist connotation? what do they call themselves? anarcho-leftists? but standard libertarians aren’t anarchists and my hypothetical social justice libertarians needn’t be either - libertarianism doesn’t necessarily imply anarchism.
You may be interested in Bleeding Heart Libertarians and Center for a Stateless Society, who take two different libertarian approaches to social justice. BHL is more moderate and approaches issues from grounds that would typically be appealing to progressives, e.g. Rawlsianism (though BHL isn’t entirely Rawlsian), and argues that moving towards libertarianism would be good from a social justice standpoint, or at least that concern with social justice issues is compatible with libertarianism. C4SS is more radical, and many C4SSers describe themselves as market anarchists or free-market anti-capitalists, though they don’t reject the term “libertarian”.
Some good posts from each -
— David Friedman, The Machinery of Freedom
I am literally going through all of the Ayn Rand Harry Potter thing going “yes??? exactly???”
Said Slytherin, “We’ll teach just those
Whose ancestry’s purest.”
“An obsession with ancestral purity,” whispered Harry out of the side of his mouth, “is the rankest, lowest form of collectivism. It is racism and laziness disguised as filial pride. A man’s character is not inherited. It is forged by steel and jaws and trains and bulging forearm muscles. This is a doctrine for, and by, brutes.”…
“A genius is a genius,” Harry continued, “regardless of the number of morons who belong to the same family—and a moron is a moron, regardless of the number of geniuses who share his last name.” He looked impassively at Draco, who shook under the moral purity of Harry’s gaze.
yes, that’s exactly right?
Snape looked at him with something strange brimming in his eyes. “I believe I’m going to respect you after all, Potter,” he said.
“That doesn’t matter,” Harry said. “Whether you respect me or not, I remain myself.”
“That was unwise, boy,” she hissed, thrusting a quill into his hand. “You will write ‘I will not tell lies’ a hundred times with this until it is etched permanently onto your skin.”
Harry looked coolly at her, like if an iceberg were to make eye contact with you and remain unimpressed. He lifted the quill as if to begin, then immediately chopped off his own hand with it.
Professor Umbridge screamed as the hand continued to draft architectural designs for several minutes on the floor.
Harry wrapped his wrist and placed it efficiently behind his back before making her a low bow. “There is the hand, Professor,” he said, inclining his head wryly to the floor. “You make ask it to do whatever you wish. I remain free.”
ballsy as SHIT I 100% approve civil disobedience FTW
I mean even some of the stuff that is blatant parody also kind of has a point???
“That — that doesn’t matter, Mum,” Ron said tentatively. “You should consider your children indifferently, only on the basis of the values you can trade with them, rather than automatically prefer us simply because we happen to have been born to you. It’s — it’s the trader principle, Mum.”
Mrs. Weasley let the crockpot slip from her hand.
“There’s no reason for my being a prefect to reflect upon you either negatively or poorly,” Ron said, his voice deepening. “My achievements are my own. Not yours.”
I mean, obviously people love their children (and Ayn Rand was perfectly aware of this and in no way against love of children) and also parents are involved in their children’s upbringing and can be proud, but also like… my achievements ARE my own, not my Mom’s! That’s true!
heeeeelp I’m becoming an Objectivist
— David Gauthier, Morals by Agreement (via eccentric-opinion)
For all the libertarian rhetoric surrounding Bitcoin, it’s actually pretty useful for oppressed groups.
Remember that the credit card companies shut off donations to Wikileaks.
Remember that Paypal doesn’t allow adult services.
Remember that the government has the power to freeze your bank account and seize your assets if they decide they don’t like you.
This is why we need Bitcoin.
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… is confused. Helping wikileaks, adult services, and protection from government crackdown are exactly the libertarian reasons I’ve heard in support of bitcoin.
Exactly. Bitcoin enables market transactions that are socially disapproved of or outright banned. This is a straightforward reason for libertarians to support it. In market transactions, you don’t have to get social approval for what you’re doing, you only have to provide value for value.
eamo2747 said: I'm confused about what Beethoven was doing in the black composers post. He was German.
By golly gee! I keep forgetting that Black people didn’t exist until the Fresh Prince of Bel Air came on television! Or that Black people existed in anywhere else than Africa even with slavery going on :) My apologies.
Anyway, here’s proof that Beethoven was Black:
"… Said directly, Beethoven was a black man. Specifically, his mother was a Moor, that group of Muslim Northern Africans who conquered parts of Europe—making Spain their capital—for some 800 years.
In order to make such a substantial statement, presentation of verifiable evidence is compulsory. Let’s start with what some of Beethoven’s contemporaries and biographers say about his brown complexion:
(Louis Letronne, Beethoven, 1814, pencil drawing.)
"Frederick Hertz, German anthropologist, used these terms to describe him: ‘Negroid traits, dark skin, flat, thick nose.’
Emil Ludwig, in his book ‘Beethoven,’ says: ‘His face reveals no trace of the German. He was so dark that people dubbed him Spagnol [dark-skinned].’
Fanny Giannatasio del Rio, in her book ‘An Unrequited Love: An Episode in the Life of Beethoven,’ wrote ‘His somewhat flat broad nose and rather wide mouth, his small piercing eyes and swarthy [dark] complexion, pockmarked into the bargain, gave him a strong resemblance to a mulatto.’Beethoven’s death mask: profile and full face
C. Czerny stated, ‘His beard—he had not shaved for several days—made the lower part of his already brown face still darker.’
Following are one word descriptions of Beethoven from various writers: Grillparzer, ‘dark’; Bettina von Armin, ‘brown’; Schindler, ‘red and brown’; Rellstab, ‘brownish’; Gelinek, ‘short, dark.’
In Alexander Thayer’s Life of Beethoven, vol.1, p. 134, the author states, “there is none of that obscurity which exalts one to write history as he would have it and not as it really was. The facts are too patent.” On this same page, he states that the German composer Franz Josef Haydn was referred to as a “Moor” by Prince Esterhazy, and Beethoven had “even more of the Moor in his looks.’ On p. 72, a Beethoven contemporary, Gottfried Fischer, describes him as round-nosed and of dark complexion. Also, he was called ‘der Spagnol’ (the Spaniard).
Other “patent” sources, of which there are many, include, but are not limited to, Beethoven by Maynard Solomon, p.78. He is described as having “thick, bristly coal-black hair” (in today’s parlance, we proudly call it ‘kinky’) and a ‘ruddy-complexioned face.’ In Beethoven: His Life and Times by Artes Orga, p.72, Beethoven’s pupil, Carl Czerny of the ‘School of Velocity’ fame, recalls that Beethoven’s ‘coal-black hair, cut a la Titus, stood up around his head [sounds almost like an Afro]. His black beard…darkened the lower part of his dark-complexioned face.’
Engraving by Blasius Hofel, Beethoven, 1814, color facsimile of engraving after a pencil drawing by Louis Letronne. This engraving was regarded in Beethoven’s circle as particularly lifelike. Beethoven himself thought highly of it, and gave several copies to his friends.
Beethoven, the Black Spaniard(read more here)
Beethoven wasn’t black. This and this portrait make it quite obvious that he was white. The term “Moor”, when used to refer to ethnic groups, traditionally refers to Arabs and Berbers, who aren’t black either.
Okay, despite all this, I’m thinking of different strategies for showing people the good things of the rationality movement.
HPMOR is an obvious one, but not for everyone.
Luminosity (and Alicorn’s posts on Less Wrong) are also good.
The Sequences probably aren’t the best thing.
Data point: I got into Less Wrong through the Sequences.